TheViper did this start against TaToH in the Clown Cup. There's a perfect bonus for them to save a bit more wood, easy to adjust if at first is considered too OP, and historically perfect.
Remember how stupidly broken arambai with 18(20) attack were? Close. Halbs can get microed down by mamelukes but if you are not paying attention they will destroy you mamelukes.Halb kills mameluke in 2-3 hits and cost 25/35 instead of 65/85 GOLD. By nerfing indian and berber camels they literally killed all aok camel civs without special bonuses. The Saracen Market or When (not) to Farm Some of you will know that I recently posted a little build order for the Saracens in this subreddit that made use of their market.
Their cavalry is indeed excellent despite missing even the Cavalier, because they get all other upgrades and a very threatening unique unit from that branch: the Mameluke. They should get more than "dead jihadi returns gold". Then it would be kind of useful, but microintensive.I wouldn't say they are great against halbs. Don't these guys (as well as other, true) used to live in I agree, but the numbers have to be different for archers and cav archers. Now Viets are considered the worst civ by many. It's pretty vital in arabia TGs to fill in gaps you may have, it hits pretty much all. I think the most simple for Mamelukes would be to give them Cavalry (and not Camel at all) subtype.A camels long legs help its body to be high from the hot desert surface and a pad of thick tissue called a pedestal raises the body slightly when the camel sits so cool air can pass underneath.To me it seems like the devs don't know how to nerf units properly as we could see last week (and a few times before as well). Truth hurts.It's not just saracens. r/aoe2: Community for AoE2 players. It also featured 4 Dark Age farms, probably because that's what I subconciously expect from FC builds. Bonus HP + stronger spam, every camel in the game gets nerfed again because the developers are mentally deficient.Sara is the tech tree you need when you have the support around it to get it to that stage.
Even in AoC they took +38 Bonus from Halberdiers while Cavalry takes +32.The archer dmg vs buildings is kinda too much like obsidian arrows IMHOjust giving saracen a camel productionspeed buff would be enough in my opinion, makes it more viable to go for mass Mamelukes, earlier in the game. Cavalry moving faster is interesting, but most ppl will scream OP. And in arena they are exceptionally strong.
Like the Portuguese one, it's in fact interesting, not obviously strong, but can be used. Say after elite upgrade, or after Zealotry. But at least one team mate has to play Portuguese, or in this case Saracens, for the whole team to benefit from that bonus, and looks like no one wants to be that guy. LoL hey DookieLoogie did you call your mom? Saracens are still pretty good as they are, but if they're gonna keep it how it is, then Saracens need much more HP on Zealotry or declassify Mamelukes as cavalry, and those are pretty big balance changes on themselves.
Porto actually have a good smush as it is, it's one of the things still keeping them in the game.Repeat indian camels. Saracens are still pretty good as they are, but if they're gonna keep it how it is, then Saracens need much more HP on Zealotry or declassify Mamelukes as cavalry, and those are pretty big balance changes on themselves. Like "who cares about aok, it doesn't make us any money, nobody plays with those civs anymore so if we keep on nerfing them, more people will buy the expansions."
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