Thank you for your insight, Tom. I don’t think Morris loved her, either – but he wanted her to love him at the end. I liked the writing. Olivia de Havilland poses with her Oscar for “The Heiress.”. Those moments were fleeting earlier in the movie, but now there’s no reason for it to be fleeting, now that she is more in-tuned with herself and has gained inner-strength. I don’t think it shows she was embittered at all!! Either it was found out, or the staff members were in on it all. I think what most surprised me about the ending was that she didn’t *shoot* him….I was expecting her to have enough “passion” left to take a true payment for the grief he’d caused. That's why Sandy doesn't seem to have aged. But I do agree, it’s all quite ambiguous. (What did Jesus say about forgiveness?) Just a thoughtâ¦â¦.”]. When i have acted as catherine acted against those who have injured me, i only succeeded in deminishing myself. I feel that from the time of Morris desertion and her father’s rejection of her she was somewhat of a ghost figure drifting in that house. She’s suspicious of any compliments, even from the people who know her best, and the once adventuresome young lady is now self-exiled in her opulent prison. Never noticed that–thank you for that insight. Her mouth turns up into a small, hopeful, optimistic smile when she hears the bell signaling Morris’ arrival. Almost everything about her seems to have changed after that scene: Her body language (now coolly poised where once she was cringing and awkward), her voice (once high and beseeching, now much more flat, more malleable and apt to take on a note of command, derision, or seductiveness), her attitude (usually nervously attentive and eager to please, now merely attentive and neutral, almost mercurial depending on who she speaks to; note that the only thing that seems to whip her into a passion post-desertion is her father and Morris, the two men to have wronged her the most), etc. I don’t believe Catherine is a newfound woman at all. I love the part where she wait to hear the sound of the door bolted by Mariah before snipping the last bit of thread from her embroidery. Am I just ready to move on, now liberated from wondering if he’ll ever come back? Now itâs merely a cool dress for a warm evening â or maybe itâs a bit âMiss Havishamâ? People can consider she’ll be scarred forever by the disappointments, the treason and the insults from the two men who should’ve loved her. [I don't understand the ending. - Denver Post 'Catherine Banner’s first novel for adults is written with the kind of old-fashioned craftsmanship and … He came to her. Somewhat similar to the book, sometimes not. In movies and life, the ‘responsibility to forgive’ allows falls to the victim. Either it was found out, or the staff members were in on it all along. It’s a good argument you make, and one I would like to believe. Not to say that Morris didn’t deserve it–I don’t think anyone denies that he really did deserve it! You make an interesting case that there is a chance that our heroine may someday put aside her bitterness under the right circumstances because we a see a glimpse of the Old Catherine in her face. However, he won't leave the house. Her emotional default is to be suspicious of kindness. Glo walks with a limp, and the footsteps at the end were even. I do not like Henry James’ portrayal of spinster women ( “Turn Of The Screw” aka “The Innocents”; “Washington Square” aka “The Heiress”). I could watch it a thousand times and never have a distinct answer … and yet always come away with a distinct impression, that of greatness. My guess is that at the very least, she wouldn’t have been loved. I loved the ending and thought it a triumph for Catherine. I don’t know, I always love a love story and for this, I will always give Morris the benefit of doubt. As the one thing that seemed to give her solace and her one consistent talent from her younger, awkward days, it could mean she’s cutting ties with her youthful optimism, choosing to cling to her bitterness. A #friday #funny to end your working week See more of Catherine House - Support for Women Experiencing Homelessness on Facebook Catherine could have had a wonderful happy life, with some issues that happen in all marriages, but at least she would have been happy for a while anyway! Morris announces he “is home”–knowing he has her heart and soul. He’s a fool to think that she wouldn’t harbor any bitterness towards him and falls into his own trap. I show this film to my high school students and I almost always get a very positive reaction. In the original play, “Washinton Square” Kathryn is dead as a woman because of both her father and Morris. Great comments about this movie â it really does give the viewer a lot to think about. Maybe she’ll even find love that way, or at the very least make friends. If she says “I can be very cruel”, maybe she means she’s able to be cruel to those who don’t deserve good treatment. But at the end, I do think that Morris fell in love with her and she knew it! Either way, Catherine grew into someone who will no longer be manipulated nor someone whose self-worth will only be determined by the validation of the men in her life. Catherine continues this act of happiness until he leaves, and proceeds to let her aunt know that she has no intention of going with Morris. Thanks for sharing that! I would like to pose to you, dear readers, the question of how you read the ending of the movie. I agree with most of what I have read but I do believe that Catherine’s father really did love her! A perfect film. You’re totally right about Catherine when she gets to the top of the stairs. Henry James is not easily adapted to the screen. The ending is ambiguous. He did not see anything about her worth loving by another man except her inheritance (at that point in her life). – but Catherine is the bad one because she finally has enough and tells him off? Question about Catherine House: “I don't understand the ending. I agree with joelnox. [Can you help me understand the role Theo played at the end? What was the big secret? Morris left Catherine for California to be an idler, he did not make a fortune there, he came back penniless. Female anger (especially when it’s justified) is obviously terribly frightening to people. And if Morris leaves her, he likely would take all the money. I don’t think it is a straight liberation by any stretch but that up is what makes the ending great and so ambiguous. He sure didn’t wait around for her to change her mind. That’s when he starts to pound the door. When our weak hero returns, he is his old money-grubbing self but he also loves her. That’s the way I read the character. I don’t think she would have. He has grown greedier with the years. Though her enemies would have hoped for a scandalous end, the simple truth is that Catherine suffered a stroke and died quietly in her bed the following day. She did have her revenge on her father and morris. I had this exact conversation yesterday after a friend watched ‘The Heiress’ on my recommendation, knowing it’s one of my favorite movies. However, when Catherine deliberately cuts the yarn from her embroidery (the one thing she does well and for which her father had great contempt) at the same time Mariah bolts the door against Morris, you get a sense that perhaps she will now lay aside anything (including bitterness) that has kept her from exploring the world and being open to friendships. “up” doesn’t belong in there. She did have her revenge on her father and morris. I love what you say about the costumes. Was it to get revenge, or was it to liberate herself from his influence? At least Catherine had some happiness in her life, even if it was fleeting. At the end she feels nothing but abhorrence for Morris. Is she going upstairs to go to bed after her victory, or will she be packing her bags for parts unknown? And how do you think Theo knew it was her who went to the lab with his key? I look forward to hearing from you! For Ines, Catherine is the closest thing to a home she’s ever had, and her serious, timid roommate, Baby, soon becomes an unlikely friend. With its conclusion, Catherine House transforms from an unenjoyable novel to a loathsome exercise. Perfection!!! What’s to stop her from going out into the community and maybe putting her money to good use, perhaps via charity and public works? I love it when she makes her walk up the stairs and Morris is banging on the door. Once securing her place she was able to forgive Morris (long ago) because she realized she no longer needed a man. As she starts up the stairs she’s hesitant and unsure. In the film I got the feeling that William Wyler did not want to show Olivia DeHavilland, in the final scene, as a cold heart woman so Wyler added that sweet yet confusing smile. I was wondering why Catherine says that this will be her last embroidery-she tells Aunt she will not do another. (Heh. This is the late 1800s, the womenâs suffrage movement was afoot. She’d already made up in her mind, long before Townsend had reappeared that he never truly loved her, and that perhaps she wasn’t worth his love. That does seem to point toward the “liberated” side, and the symbolism of her ascending the stairs is definitely something to be thought about. | The Wonderful World of Cinema, Olivia de Havilland–Lady of Classic Cinema. Now I actually prefer the book’s ending, although the film ending is still powerful, like a punch to the solar plexus, and also more triumphant. The embroidery, for instance. However, I have to wonder: is her ascending the stair supposed to be a proper ascension (meaning her “rising above” the past so to speak) or her finally deciding to stay tied to the Square? She’d moved on. Catherine’s closure is freedom from the need for love or praise from anyone. “I have been taught by masters”. She knew if she married him, he’d spend all her money soon, have many lovers, and not come home for days. Giddily, she races up the steps to retrieve the gift. The question is not whether Catherine should or should not have accepted Morris at the end, but rather her motives behind rejecting him. My friend sees it from a feminist perspective–Catherine’s newfound power gives her the ability to do what she wants and what she feels is best for her. The school says he and Baby are dead to cover their disappearances. Well, I think the point is that the ending is layered. Pingback: Long Life to the Lovely Livie! Sandy, Baby, and the rabbit are all in a state of suspended animation, connected to the house itself. At least in Washington Square. First of all I’ll like to say that Catherine frees herself from Morris, but I think that same act that frees her from his lies, gets her closer to her father, controlling her even from death. It’s chilling that such a loving, trusting soul could lose all vestiges of human compassion. Heathcliff is locked in the attic and vows revenge. Or: it could be read as a consciously symbolic effort to move on from the past; if she’s not going to sit at her loom all the time anymore, then what’s to stop her from visiting the relatives who keep asking her to? Our hero’s closure is the need to be forgiven, taken care of by a good woman, get the woman’s heart as well as her money. I see the last scenes as an acts of liberation When see finishes the embrodery and says ” that is last one she will do” Her father said that that was only she was good at doing. I don’t even see her as necessarily cruel to Morris, she’s settling a score but she not treating him as badly as she could. The book is absolutely amazing as well though. The play is being revived on Broadway right now, Iâd be curious to see what they do with it. She simply allowed him to ramble on and spin his web of lies about not showing up that awful night because it wasn’t fair to her to lose her inheritance on account of him. From the first time I saw this movie 15 years ago, it became my favorite film. : https://goo.gl/QpgBNsJOIN The Discord! I am thrilled to know there are others who see this movie as I do. Giving him the buttons….well, they seem symbolic of the $$ he’d expected and then not been offered the first time around. That’s what I love a bout that film. I suppose my question was how do you interpret this portrayal? I guess I can see both sides of the coin, but I tend to agree with Sarahâs interpretation above. 4 bedroom detached house for sale in Catherine Close, West End, SO30 for £465,000. Subscribe to be part of the Enirehtaks! Hell, he walked out of there with some nice jewelry; which will probably keep him for a few months – it’s not like the guy is capable of living an honest life, after all. May 12, 2020. You are in the house and the house is in the woods. The goodness of an outsider towards those who see her as a “giver.” Not gonna happen. Is she going to become a recluse of the house and of Washington Square? Catherine Willows (néeFlynn) is the night shift supervisor for the Las Vegas Crime Lab. Excellent film and excellent cast, I agree! Morris was an opportunist, her father saw it and rightfully wanted to protect his daughter while at the same time keeping her under his chauvinistic thumb, as Iâm sure he kept his beautiful trophy wife. At the end of the day, I'm not sure I can describe what this book is, or even what it was trying to do. No wrong answers here, Anne! :) https://discord.gg/EnirehtakPrevious video: Minecraft THEME PARK! I think by witnessing Morris’ greed, she realized the power her inheritance would give, and again showed her independence when willing to forgo it, knowing her father would never disinherit her thus finally exercising a power over him. You can pose questions to the Goodreads community with Thanks for the blog entry, loved it! Her voice changes as she says: He came back here with the same lies. Catherine is an alumnus of the Garreg Mach Monastery Officers Academy. A friend and fellow cinephile, with whom I discussed this scene, reads into the ending a bit differently than I do. Hi! The final scene –Catherine is wearing white (bridal). My interpretation of Catherine’s proclamation at the end, that she shall never embroider again, is that she has at long last proved her father wrong. Now that she had her own back at him, she can move on as an adult. Fascinating. I don’t think so. One question that really bugs me every time I see this movie is this: Would Catherine have had a miserable life with Morris? Is she going to wake Aunt Penniman and throw her out? But before she gets hurt, she was going to stay one step ahead of her opponents to prevent them from having power over her heart and issuing any heartbreak. The killer was never caught, but after the death of Beth and the evidence found at her house, it turned out that she is the killer. Catherine Sloper ascends the stairs in the final scene, leaving fortune-hunter Morris Townsend banging on the door. One of the marvelous aspects of this movie is that thanks to Wyler’s brilliant direction and de Havilland’s magnificent performance, there are multiple ways to read into the ending and its significance. The wave of change for women was on the horizon and she was ready for it, even perhaps push it along. As Morris comes, Catherine instructs the maid: “Bolt it, Maria.” Maria bolts the door, then proceeds to go to bed. She was not stupid and she’d had plenty of time to plan what she’d like to do in revenge for both of her abusers. Then, as she takes the lamp there’s a look of uncertainty for just a moment before she ascends the stairs and while she listens to Morris calling her name. Very interesting insight into Catherine! Swapna Krishna writes about space, technology, and pop culture. I guess the question is whether or not she will actually have happiness with Morris after what he did to her. She’s walking away from Morris, so clearly there’s the echo of desertion and her leaving him behind. That was the one thing she ever enjoyed. I think her excitement and happiness at being married was due to the idea that someone finally loved her for her, so when her father expressed his reservations, she didn’t want to believe it. But hero returns to a person who has stopped giving of her trust or goodness, although she gives in a distant “refusal to be untouched” moral, societal goodness. I keep seeing Miss Haversham from Great Expectations – the old lady who was jilted in her youth and now wears a wedding gown yellowed with age and keeps rat-infested wedding cake on the table. I’ve watched Monty’s portrayal give such passion and ardor to his pursuit of Katherine. In the novel, if I remember correctly, Catherine actually does earn her father’s respect through her struggle with him, even though her will opposes his wishes….Such a rich story! Her father won. One thing I found interesting: When Catherine tells Morris of his wedding present from Paris (the first time), he seems disappointed that they’re only buttons until he learns that they’re made of pearl. I believe he wanted the audience to interpret her smile however the viewer wanted or expected it to mean. At first devastated and hurt. She balked against the societal conventions by being willing to elope, so had a brave current running through her only to be dashed by the cruelty once again of a man. I like to think that IF the right man had come along her father would have seen it and approved, but he did try to save her from being totally ruined by a fortune hunter like Morris. I see a cold and bitter woman finally getting her revenge–I see her ascending the stairs deeply satisfied. . Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. My reading on the ending is that Catherine has been so hardened by the constant abuse from her father and by the treachery of Morris that her only answer is to become jaded and cold, as they were. She must have been well treated by her father (who is trapped by the memories of his lovely and late wife) and Morris. Miniver.". Thank you for your very insightful and articulate comment! Kinda like GWTW! That last is really more wishful thinking on my part. This post has been awarded Best Classic Movie Discussion of 2011 by the Classic Movie Blog Association. The entire dialogue throughout is the best. She saw their weakness and finally learned to put herself first, as they did. She had learned a painful lesson concerning men and the likelihood that anyone would ever truly love her, and she never forgot it. When the Lintons visit, Hindley and Edgar make fun of Heathcliff and a fight ensues. She knew this the first time. Too right, the staircase tends to be the most divisive aspect of interpreting this film. When her father dies, Catherine inherits his fortune and lives alone in the large house, rejecting any form of kindness or compliments. Two years later, Morris suddenly returns, asking for forgiveness for his desertion. I’m sure she played in her mind over and over how she would get her revenge had he ever tried to return. Thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly Backlots. She brings down *ruby* buttons, and he seems to be delighted. She knew this. Her life was forever sealed. Readers do not forget. Well, he came to the wrong house. The House of Tudor was an English royal house of Welsh origin, descended from the Tudors of Penmynydd.Tudor monarchs ruled the Kingdom of England and its realms, including their ancestral Wales and the Lordship of Ireland (later the Kingdom of Ireland) from 1485 until 1603, with six monarchs in that period: Henry VII, Henry VIII, Edward VI, Lady Jane Grey, Mary I and Elizabeth I. This is a very sad ending. I see Catherine as a very cold and calculating person at the end, who has discovered tremendous power within herself due to the abuses of her father and Morris, and uses the powers to hurt. Is it merely an echo of Morris’ desertion, a debt repaid and nothing more? We’re linking to your article for Academy Monday at SeminalCinemaOutfit.com. by Elisabeth Thomas ‧ RELEASE DATE: May 12, 2020. question, I think it’s a very complicated motivation, that perhaps even the character didn’t know yet — Am I bitter and vengeful? And why write of her actions so meanly? When he comes for her later that evening, instead of leaving to marry him, she turns the tables and commits her own act of desertion, leaving him pounding on the door and calling her name, while she ascends the stairs away from him. The ascent up the stairs says it all. By this time in the movie, we have learned that Morris’ intentions are not honorable, as he deserted Catherine when her father threatened to disinherit her if they married. Almost like snapshots in time. Great discussion here. Some think of her as a bitter woman at the end, some as a triumphant one. I’ve seen it countless times and each time I count the ways in which it is truly magnificent. jerk that could manipulate naive women. The interesting thing about The Heiress is that it is basically a female empowerment movie, set in an era where women were subservient and even made during a time when women were often caught in stifling relationships. When Morris comes in and asks for forgiveness, Catherine’s expression changes only around 6:51, when we see that she’s beginning to accept his coming on to her. Yet the House’s strange protocols make this refuge, with its worn velvet and weathered leather, feel increasingly like a gilded prison. Very interesting. Frances dies after giving birth to a son, Hareton. I can only extrapolate from my own experience. I agree with the perspective that Catherine forgave Morris, but she would never forget how she was treated and ultimately she would not allow those people to affect her in such a way any longer. If one were to read her act as empowerment . Once you feel that kind of happiness, whether or not it’s real, you don’t want it to be taken away. Those buttons were probably a reminder of what could have been and betrayal. When I first watched the movie, I, too, got chills at the “He came back here with the same lies” bit. She barely passed high school after getting pulled into a spiral of drugs, parties and dissipation. She already has a satisfied look on her face as she turns out the lamp in the living room. I agree, and as for the ending, I'm pretty sure that, [she didn't escape. Finally, she can move on from the embroidery, let go of it and her father’s judgment of her, confident in the knowledge she has exacted a double revenge – revenge on Morris, and on her father’s damning indictment of her lack of talents. And because Ines had figured their secret out and they wouldn't let her leave they gave her the same option to "stay" at the school and become one of their guinea pigs. I’ve read everyone else’s thoughts and I do believe Katherine DID change after her father’s death….but wouldn’t it be a nice thought if she had taken Morris when he came back and they lived happily every after? Olivia de Havillandâs Oscar is richly deserved. I’m more towards the “liberated” side of the interpretation divide. I believe that Catherine did the right thing. âI have been taught by masters.â I reject the societal view of her as one of cold and calculatingly cruel, as her father, I see her as a mature individual who has taken lifeâs hard lessons and grown stronger from them.
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